komando33386 wrote:Yeah that's basically it, weights training wont make you gas tho, opposite really but if your muscles becomes really large then you are putting pressure on heart when you use them. Strength training (low rep, high weight), endurance (high rep, low weight) and body building are all different. Strength training is where you simply tear the muscle, forcing it to strengthen itself, that's why its regularly used to build size but depending on body types you may end up simply getting stronger. Endurance (high rep, low weight) is teaching the muscle recovery, so it maintains its ability when hit with lactic acid, your basically making your body learn to dispel acid build up. This works to burn cals and define muscle, that's why its used to cut.

When you first start training you build muscle fast but over time muscle adapts, now body builders change there training at this point in order to continue building size but if you are training for fighting, adapting is good, you want strength and power over size so you only change training when strength is not growing. Endurance is a must, you build power and then you train it to last, this way of training is sports training, you make your training specific to your sport and this way of training also compliments cardio.

komando33386 wrote:What are you training for like? Size or fighting? Or both?

Oh yeah what's your body type too, your naturally slender aye?

komando33386 wrote:Chest requires triceps and shoulders so you need them fresh for it and best to train them after and on same day just so you have them ready for next chest workout but see you have that down, same applies to some other things like stomach muscles stabilise in bench press, chin ups and even in squats. You need add shoulders, also crunches, leg raises or even wood choppers (torso twists with a weight or pull sytem) should defiantly be done too. Core strength is vital for all sports. Also if your Tri's are fatigued on Tue for your back training it will effect likes of chin ups or even deadlifts. Generally its done day on, day off, you grow in recovery time and you dont want to be training on recovering muscles. Personally i dont worry about a set plan, i know what parts of my body im trying to develop so i focus workouts round them and i train the rest my body when they are recovering, then again some people need routine. You can actually train a muscle once a week but you have to train it hard and muscle pains will last longer.

As for weight, reps of 8 say, increasing weight as you get stronger to ensure it stays 8, do that 2 weeks and then switch to endurance few weeks, that can be varied reps but over 12. Things like chin ups you do to fatigue and do a lot of sets, can put weights in a rucksack (need to have a waist clip) if you want to increase strength.

Had quick look at that site, its bodybuilding, so that's up to you if you want to be doing that, i never watched much of it but it will no doubt be relatively sound methods for building size and you can always take some of what they show you and make your own plan. Maybe follow it for a while and change it to suit, everyone is different and best thing you can do is learn as much as you can find the things that work for you.

Btw the your photobucket thing is set to private lol.

Keeeee wrote:low weight high reps wont get you "cut"
if you do heavy weights for a few reps, the resulting muscle is what makes you look "cut"
you have to have muscle in order for it to be noticable
the only scenario for using low weight is if you dont want to gain muscle, or you want to train endurance

jetpilotx wrote:My tip, if you're gonna do squats, do it with a belt. I messed my spine because of squats. I doubled the weight i usually use and i didnt use belt. I now have DDD in my spine. Or thats what is diagnosed by the ortho docs. Probably the same as Tito Ortiz' back.

Also, take care of your shoulders. It easily pops out if done in the wrong way..

komando33386 wrote:

Keeeee wrote:low weight high reps wont get you "cut"
if you do heavy weights for a few reps, the resulting muscle is what makes you look "cut"
you have to have muscle in order for it to be noticable
the only scenario for using low weight is if you dont want to gain muscle, or you want to train endurance

Then why do body builders do it? Why don't they just keep upping the heavy weights? Also why aren't power lifters cut? And for good measure, why are strong men not competing in body building comps? By your statement they would be the most cut people on the planet. If you can answer them, then you can even try answering why boxers n such who stick to mainly own bodyweight training, meaning there reps for each set are potentially 100+, why are they lean, ripped and cut???

"you have to have muscle in order for it to be noticable" As a way of imitating your own style of needing to express an argument, let me add that everyone has muscle, if you didn't you wouldn't be able to move, which case talking about training it would seem to be pretty pointless.. I know what you meant but like you i chose to ignore that.

Keeeee wrote:

komando33386 wrote:

Keeeee wrote:low weight high reps wont get you "cut"
if you do heavy weights for a few reps, the resulting muscle is what makes you look "cut"
you have to have muscle in order for it to be noticable
the only scenario for using low weight is if you dont want to gain muscle, or you want to train endurance

Then why do body builders do it? Why don't they just keep upping the heavy weights? Also why aren't power lifters cut? And for good measure, why are strong men not competing in body building comps? By your statement they would be the most cut people on the planet. If you can answer them, then you can even try answering why boxers n such who stick to mainly own bodyweight training, meaning there reps for each set are potentially 100+, why are they lean, ripped and cut???

"you have to have muscle in order for it to be noticable" As a way of imitating your own style of needing to express an argument, let me add that everyone has muscle, if you didn't you wouldn't be able to move, which case talking about training it would seem to be pretty pointless.. I know what you meant but like you i chose to ignore that.

your so fucking ridiculous
1. if you have no muscle exactly how are you supposed to look "cut"?
2. strong men are body builders, you think they dont have giant muscles under all of that fat? look at pudzianowski, all of the guys he competes with probably have equal muscle mass, they just have more fat and cant show it off.