Yeah his record says 25 KOs but even a elephant would die from a million mosquito bites. He couldn't even put Marquez away who was a smaller fighter. That whole fight was boring, unless of course you like extreme displays of dancing and playing tag. That fight is the perfect example of what is wrong in boxing. Just my opinion once again. MAYWEATHER HAS NO PUNCHING POWER.

pretty tight defense. but the way he stands is very easy for take downs in mma.

he has punching power but he needs to use it more. he is too defensive.

dam he may be a douche but i love his stance and head movement, respect mayweather.

j1o2s3er wrote:Sure Mayweather is good at ducking and dodging. He has made a career of doing so but that is only 1/2 of the game of boxing. The man has no power to speak of and if boxing were not under "Queensbury" rules (all punches to torso and up) he would be in alot of trouble. Could you imagine what would happen to this fool if the rules allowed punches to the upper thigh? He leaves himself open in that respect all day long. Here are some interesting stipulations that would make for a good fight between him and pac. The split is 60/40. The winner by KO gets the 60. Bet you mayweather would never agree to that. Because his game is not to put that hurt or even a ko on his opponent. It is to play Karate point fighting and run the whole time. I know I may get alot of flack for this one but oh well just my opinion. Happy new years.

You got to be kidding me how is he running maywheather stand right in front of you, and make you miss. he don't run, he is the the smartest boxer all time. He let his opponents punch themselves out, then pick them apart with clean precise shot. He has 25 ko out of 39 win. Come on he's the baddest man to ever do it, rather you like him or not.

j1o2s3er wrote:Yeah his record says 25 KOs but even a elephant would die from a million mosquito bites. He couldn't even put Marquez away who was a smaller fighter. That whole fight was boring, unless of course you like extreme displays of dancing and playing tag. That fight is the perfect example of what is wrong in boxing. Just my opinion once again. MAYWEATHER HAS NO PUNCHING POWER.

Pac-man could not do it twice, the first fight was a draw and the second fight pac-man won by split decision in which everybody thought marquez should have gotten the win.

yes he's probably the smartest boxer there is. he barely gets hit. so when he retires permenantly he's gonna have no head injuries and all the money he earned.

yeah he couldnt take marquez down but manny is a way different fighter now. hes gotten to much better.

You people should stick with MMA, he is not even the best active defensive fighter in the game. Fighters like James Tony, this guy is built like a young butter bean yet can fight another boxer in a phone booth and they can't lay a hand on him. Whitaker was not a great defensive fighter either, he was good but not great.

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Bigrock you don't know shit about boxing. Best of all time!? He is not the best of the last 20-30 years much less all time. When he gets to 87 wins undefeated with 75 KOs then you can say he was better than Julio Cesar Chavez, that's when Chavez got his first DRAW (although controversial) against Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker. Note that Chavez was on his 3rd or 4th move up in weight class to meet the defending champion. Now that I think about it, until that fight Pernell had only lost a single fight against Jose Luis Ramirez in France. Ramirez was 102 - 9 with 80+ KO's so I would not even put Floyd ahead of Ramirez.

Shit I would not put him ahead of Sugar Shane, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Ricardo Lopez, Lennox Lewis etc etc etc and you want to put him ahead of Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Gene Tunney, Larry Holmes, and other historical greats?

designationzero wrote:You people should stick with MMA, he is not even the best active defensive fighter in the game. Fighters like James Tony, this guy is built like a young butter bean yet can fight another boxer in a phone booth and they can't lay a hand on him. Whitaker was not a great defensive fighter either, he was good but not great.

PS.

Bigrock you don't know shit about boxing. Best of all time!? He is not the best of the last 20-30 years much less all time. When he gets to 87 wins undefeated with 75 KOs then you can say he was better than Julio Cesar Chavez, that's when Chavez got his first DRAW (although controversial) against Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker. Note that Chavez was on his 3rd or 4th move up in weight class to meet the defending champion. Now that I think about it, until that fight Pernell had only lost a single fight against Jose Luis Ramirez in France. Ramirez was 102 - 9 with 80+ KO's so I would not even put Floyd ahead of Ramirez.

Shit I would not put him ahead of Sugar Shane, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Ricardo Lopez, Lennox Lewis etc etc etc and you want to put him ahead of Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Gene Tunney, Larry Holmes, and other historical greats?

Ooooooooh...

What a combination, Bigrock is on the ropes. Can he recover? Can he intelligently defend himself?

Punch and clutch. Punch and clutch. Punch and clutch.

Its no wonder he hates MMA so much, no 8oz oven gloves to hide behind and if you punch and hold like a poofter with no power then you get slammed and submitted.

Wilfredo Benitez had far more stylish and impressive defence, didnt rely on the huge gloves either.

Virus wrote:it's truly guys like him that make it the "sweet science"

aint that the truth lol

designationzero wrote:You people should stick with MMA, he is not even the best active defensive fighter in the game. Fighters like James Tony, this guy is built like a young butter bean yet can fight another boxer in a phone booth and they can't lay a hand on him. Whitaker was not a great defensive fighter either, he was good but not great.

PS.

Bigrock you don't know shit about boxing. Best of all time!? He is not the best of the last 20-30 years much less all time. When he gets to 87 wins undefeated with 75 KOs then you can say he was better than Julio Cesar Chavez, that's when Chavez got his first DRAW (although controversial) against Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker. Note that Chavez was on his 3rd or 4th move up in weight class to meet the defending champion. Now that I think about it, until that fight Pernell had only lost a single fight against Jose Luis Ramirez in France. Ramirez was 102 - 9 with 80+ KO's so I would not even put Floyd ahead of Ramirez.

Shit I would not put him ahead of Sugar Shane, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Ricardo Lopez, Lennox Lewis etc etc etc and you want to put him ahead of Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Gene Tunney, Larry Holmes, and other historical greats?

yes I do know about boxing sugar shane, barrera, morales, lennox lewis, jack johnson,joe lewis, larry holmes, shows that you don't know shit about boxing, now if you would have said ali, sugar ray leonard, hagler, a prime tyson, you would have made a point,but you did name the only others which is chavez and sweat pea. Unlike all thee above Maywheather will go out on top and undefeated, that the differents. He is going to beat mosley, finally fight pac-man beat him, and retire. Simple as that.....

Bigrock counters. Several strikes hit the spot, but some of them are just swinging. Will there be a lucky punch K.O. or will this go to the decision. Gosh, it's interesting...

bigrock305 wrote:

designationzero wrote:You people should stick with MMA, he is not even the best active defensive fighter in the game. Fighters like James Tony, this guy is built like a young butter bean yet can fight another boxer in a phone booth and they can't lay a hand on him. Whitaker was not a great defensive fighter either, he was good but not great.

PS.

Bigrock you don't know shit about boxing. Best of all time!? He is not the best of the last 20-30 years much less all time. When he gets to 87 wins undefeated with 75 KOs then you can say he was better than Julio Cesar Chavez, that's when Chavez got his first DRAW (although controversial) against Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker. Note that Chavez was on his 3rd or 4th move up in weight class to meet the defending champion. Now that I think about it, until that fight Pernell had only lost a single fight against Jose Luis Ramirez in France. Ramirez was 102 - 9 with 80+ KO's so I would not even put Floyd ahead of Ramirez.

Shit I would not put him ahead of Sugar Shane, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Ricardo Lopez, Lennox Lewis etc etc etc and you want to put him ahead of Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Gene Tunney, Larry Holmes, and other historical greats?

yes I do know about boxing sugar shane, barrera, morales, lennox lewis, jack johnson,joe lewis, larry holmes, shows that you don't know shit about boxing, now if you would have said ali, sugar ray leonard, hagler, a prime tyson, you would have made a point,but you did name the only others which is chavez and sweat pea. Unlike all thee above Maywheather will go out on top and undefeated, that the differents. He is going to beat mosley, finally fight pac-man beat him, and retire. Simple as that.....

Sorry, hes right. Floyd is good but its easy to look untouchable against guys you severely outweigh and outreach. When he puts on a defensive clinic against a couple of relevant WELTERWEIGHTS I'll think about putting him up there...