I am not very knowledgeable on MMA fights. Mostly I am attracted to this fight because of Lesnar's crossover from ProWrestling. It reminds me of when Wilt Chamberlain considered boxing, or the top racketball player tried to become a pro tennis player, or Jordan playing baseball. All of which did not pan out.

Reading these posts, there is a lot about how Lesnar will learn from the first Mir fight. However, there is not so much about Mir learning from his first encounter with Lesnar. My guess is that he and his trainers are working on what to do when Lesnar comes in for a take down, or what to do in the moments where Mir did not have time to think in the first fight. Where are wrestlers most vulnerable? Perhaps a choke response to a take down attempt? Not being that knowledgeable I would appreciate comments.

The reason Lesnar got a title shot, which seems to be a topic of interest - I want to mention pay-per-view revenues. He has a fan base draws pay-per-view customers for all his fights.

Nextly, postponing the fight really plays with emotions. It kind of makes people want the fight even more. ( I also will not be surprised if the fight gets delayed again. )

And there is a lot on the line here. If Mir wins that will be such a boost to his form of martial arts, and poopooing a wrestler convert. Lesnar has the Goliath thing going so all the David's are going to be very motivated to slay Goliath.

This takes the MixedMA to MIXEDMA, and makes for a interesting contest.

Mir seems to me to be playing mind games with comments as I recall about Lesnar flopping around like a fish after he does something to him, perhaps a choke. And, as I recall, Mir saying that he will never lose to Lesnar. Maybe Mir's trying to motivate himself.

In the best orientation, I don' t care who wins, I don't know who will win. It seems like an interesting contest that stirs a lot of emotions. It kind of has some elements of ProWrestling the way it has stirred up emotions, though somewhat coincidental.

Lesnar will FIGHT!
But Mir is gonna take him down and win the fight!
I hope

I believe Lesnar will win.

I'm putting bias aside and I'm going based solely off of ability. When it comes to no gi jujitsu or sub wrestling, there are only so many submissions you can pull off. Throw some punches into the equation and you have less opportunities to set up said submissions. This leaves Mir with little options.



I believe the key to Lesnar's victory will be the clinch. I don't think Mir will be able to out muscle him. I don't think that Mir will take him down. I think that Lesnar should employ GSP's strategy and get Mir tired by grinding his weight against him for most of the rounds. Use lots of clinch work against the fence and lots of dirty boxing. Then once Mir's tired, take advantage of him.

I know everyone's calling submission, but I just don't see how you can make the same mistake twice. I think Lesnar's smarter than that. Lesnar will win.

makhoma wrote:As long as the ref doesn't take a point from Brock for the first accidental punch to the back of the head, this fight will end by TKO in the first round, Lesnar wins.


More importantly, when we will see Kongo and Carwin fight to see who's gonna fight Lesnar (or in the 1% case, Mir)??

LOL....Kongo's overrated and got exposed by Cain Velasquez. He's not a contender right now. The fight that should happen is Carwin and Cain. But they might take either randy or nog to fight Lesnar instead.

I would like to add that Mir's reach is down as 79" and Lesnar's is 81". So while Lesnar does have a reach advantage, it's not THAT big.

I think that if Mir DOES win, it will be by KO or TKO that starts with a clean punch landing and ends with Mir swarming.

It IS possible for Mir to win.....I just think that Lesnar will......if he uses the right strategy.

pleasure wrote:
The reason Lesnar got a title shot, which seems to be a topic of interest - I want to mention pay-per-view revenues. He has a fan base draws pay-per-view customers for all his fights.

Nextly, postponing the fight really plays with emotions. It kind of makes people want the fight even more. ( I also will not be surprised if the fight gets delayed again. )

I think most of us understand this reasoning but it still doesn't change the fact that its fucked. The NBA wouldn't put a team in the Finals if they didn't deserve it, the NFL wouldn't put a team in the Super Bowl simply to attract viewers nor would the MLB delay the World Series to stimulate emotions.
I guess I'm just dissapointed because MMA seems be just starting to get the kind of recognition and respect that other major sports enjoy but then the UFC pulls crap like this just to get viewers and it makes the sport look like Pro Wrestling to a lot of people.

Dante wrote:

pleasure wrote:
The reason Lesnar got a title shot, which seems to be a topic of interest - I want to mention pay-per-view revenues. He has a fan base draws pay-per-view customers for all his fights.

Nextly, postponing the fight really plays with emotions. It kind of makes people want the fight even more. ( I also will not be surprised if the fight gets delayed again. )

I think most of us understand this reasoning but it still doesn't change the fact that its fucked. The NBA wouldn't put a team in the Finals if they didn't deserve it, the NFL wouldn't put a team in the Super Bowl simply to attract viewers nor would the MLB delay the World Series to stimulate emotions.
I guess I'm just dissapointed because MMA seems be just starting to get the kind of recognition and respect that other major sports enjoy but then the UFC pulls crap like this just to get viewers and it makes the sport look like Pro Wrestling to a lot of people.

+1 here. Ive never thought Lesnar deserved his shot and the worst thing is that he thinks he actually does because he beat Couture. Now with the photo sessions and exessive pre talk this is starting to look more like a show then a sport. Nothing wrong with a show but i would like to keep the integrity in MMA.

LESNAR ALL THE WAY !!

please shut mirs mouth

Most mma fans would want and expect Mir to win i would reckon, Brocks here to get the kids into mma and make Dana cash. I'd expect a quick fight with Mir taking the win.

Lesnar will knock him out in the 1st

yea but the reason it's not WWE is that the guys actually have to fight and the outcome is not rehearsed...if Lesnar is such a joke that he should get exposed by Mir, and hopefully he will

Brock is gonna screw mir and yea he better be cz i am betting $250 on brock.

I'm really hoping that Mir takes the crown, but I'm afraid that Lesnar will. He's a true powerhouse with an excellent speed for his size, and that alone makes me worried. In the first fight Mir was taking some damage untill the ref paused and warned Lesnar for shots to the back of the head. After that Lesnar, with his own words, gave Mir a present.

If Mir can "survive" the first round I see his chances multiply + his BJJ is through the roof.

WAR MIR!!!!

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who will win?