Ive read a lot of shit on this & I get sick of the retards talkin all about Rogers like he is somebody...who the fuck is Rogers?? Ohhhhh big scary fat black guy...jesus...ok....Russia is a MUCH tougher place than the US will ever be & most other country's for that matter....I dont give a fuck who or where Rogers is from ...I'd pick the bad ass Russian any day especially if that man is Fedor Emelianenko....really wtf...we as americans(not all of us thank the fucking lord!) think guys like Kimbo Slice are OMG THE BADDEST MOTHERFUCKERS ALIVE!!!! yeah ok...please...then we have his buddy "Level" fighting lesser opponents with the same OMG THIS IS THE BADDEST DUDE EVER! bullshit....When have you EVER seen a vid of kimbo or level in a street fight & said...this is gonna be a good one!...never.....

My point is...its not always "the big black guy" that is gonna win or that is the better fighter...it may be a fucking LEGEND whitey from Russia

My predict? Rogers wings a bunch of slow ass punches...Fedor dodges & slips 99% of them...Rogers gets tired...Fedor gets stronger...Rogers gases...Fedor either smashes his fucking face or win by submission.....

Gogh wrote:if fedor was interested in money, then he wouldve signed with the ufc. clearly money is not fedor's main motivation

my point was about his career in general. if fedor beats every single strikeforce hw, big deal - they have 2 top ten hw's he hasnt fought and one of them ((the fucking champ holding the belt)) doesnt even wanna fight in strikeforce. however, if fedor loses a fight in strikefarce, then it will be a sad day indeed

if fedor lost to aa, then it would not have been a HUGE upset b'c aa was/is an established fighter and at the time aa was at least arguably the #2 hw in the world. the same most definitely cannot be said about rogers or even overeem if they ever fight. if fedor loses to roger, then it will be a HUGE upset - comparable to buster douglas upsetting tyson or serra beating gsp or maybe even rogers beating aa...

doesnt it seem a little strange that fedor, at this point in his career, is fighting a one dimensional fighter?? there is a reason for that and im sure anyone can figure that out

fedor said ufc gave him shit deal so he signed with other company that offered him better deal,what makes you think fedor went there for less money?

also can you tell me where is copy of that deal,except from white's mouth, where he gets 5+mil per fight?

brock got 400k for his ufc100 title fight what makes you think fedor would get 10 times more then brock?

z0rg wrote:

Gogh wrote:if fedor was interested in money, then he wouldve signed with the ufc. clearly money is not fedor's main motivation

my point was about his career in general. if fedor beats every single strikeforce hw, big deal - they have 2 top ten hw's he hasnt fought and one of them ((the fucking champ holding the belt)) doesnt even wanna fight in strikeforce. however, if fedor loses a fight in strikefarce, then it will be a sad day indeed

if fedor lost to aa, then it would not have been a HUGE upset b'c aa was/is an established fighter and at the time aa was at least arguably the #2 hw in the world. the same most definitely cannot be said about rogers or even overeem if they ever fight. if fedor loses to roger, then it will be a HUGE upset - comparable to buster douglas upsetting tyson or serra beating gsp or maybe even rogers beating aa...

doesnt it seem a little strange that fedor, at this point in his career, is fighting a one dimensional fighter?? there is a reason for that and im sure anyone can figure that out

fedor said ufc gave him shit deal so he signed with other company that offered him better deal,what makes you think fedor went there for less money?

also can you tell me where is copy of that deal,except from white's mouth, where he gets 5+mil per fight?

brock got 400k for his ufc100 title fight what makes you think fedor would get 10 times more then brock?

m1/fedor makes up a different excuse each time they negotiate with the ufc. why would the ufc give a shit deal to the only realistic thorn in their side? zuffa has a retarded amount of money so 5mil per fight for 6 fights is pocket change to zuffa

it's been reported by a few sources that fedor was offered the 5mil per fight. we dont officially know because m1 and the ufc arent going to talk about the details of their negotiations which is why i said "if the ufc's offer to fedor was really 5million per fight PLUS a % of the ppv buys..." once again, 30mil to zuffa is nothing

also the main event status fighters usually get a % of the ppv buys so lesnar made a shit ton more than 400,000. here is an interesting article i found:

"We know the PPV scale that Randy Couture has with the UFC, and assuming its the same for the top draws in the UFC, then combined with the known $400,000 salary that Brock Lesnar made at UFC 100, and the 1.72 million PPV buys that UFC 100 did, the PPV bonus would be $4,492,500. That makes for a total of $4,892,500. That's assuming Brock gets the same PPV bonus as Couture. It's interesting to note that Brock made less in official Salary as defending champion, $400,000 at UFC 100, vs $450,000 as challenger ($250,000 to show, $200,000 to win bonus). It's also likely he's getting more PPV money. Who knows how much more, but it seems very likely that he topped $5 million."
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/did-brock-lesnar-make-5-million-ufc-100-a-1036725/

this is assuming lesnar's deal with the ufc is the same as couture. there is no way in hell fedor is currently making more money at strikeforce than he would in the ufc. it will take an act of god for strikeforce to be able to seriously compete with the ufc where the money is: ppv sales

so zorg buddy, does 5mil per fight for fedor seem like a stretch now?

cbs is probably taking a big piece of pie out of the total revenue generated from the up coming strikeforce event. strikeforce is using cbs in order to become a mainstream name, oil the fedor hype-machine, and pick up new fans

strikeforce is not on cbs to make money. the money is in ppv sales which is where strikeforce plans on eventually having some events. the big question is, who is fedor going to fight to headline a strikeforce ppv event? if you can somehow manage to name a realistic condender ((plz dont say overeem)), then who is fedor going to fight to headline strikeforce's second ppv event? clearly strikeforce is shitting their pants and waiting for a miracle to fall in their lap

I hope Rogers takes his head off but I reckon Fedor will take him down late in the 1st, soften him up with some g"n"p and then finish it with an arm bar or choke

By the way - anyone know where you can bet on mma (ufc or Strikeforce) in the UK or online?

Gogh wrote:once again, 30mil to zuffa is nothing

why they didnt sign copromotion with m-1 then and lose few mils since it means nothing to them?

z0rg wrote:

Gogh wrote:once again, 30mil to zuffa is nothing

why they didnt sign copromotion with m-1 then and lose few mils since it means nothing to them?

its because they arent morons. it would be exactly like walmart giving dollar general store space to sell their items, then giving dollar general a % of the entire store's total profits

there is a huge difference between giving m1/fedor 5mil+ per fight and giving them a % of the total revenue generated from the event: revenue from ticket sales, a higher ppv sales %, merchandise sold at the event, endorsements/advertisement, plus m1 would be a more recognizable name if the ufc and m1 copromoted. why would the ufc help out a direct competitor?

5mil+ per fight = short term
co-promotion = long term

I am sure Mr. Rogers is training like never before. I commend him for this. This will make him rich and well known even more than possible. I hope Mr. Rogers has some luck but i do not think he will win. Any heavyweight professional MMA fighter on this level could win a fight against Fedor or anyone else with enough training. Fedor is in a league of his own and he has everything stacked against him. I think he will win quickly if he is on top of his game. Not sure how fast Mr. Rogers is but he needs speed more than anything else. He has enough power if he can hit Fedor. Rogers can win if he can hit Fedor with fast and accurate punches. Do not get Fedor on the ground or it will be over. I don't think anyone at this stage can beat Fedor on the ground. I believe Machida could give Fedor a tough fight if he keeps it on top. Good luck to both fighters.

Im A Fedor Hater B/c He Passed Up UFC (He Should Have ATLEAST Did A 2 Fight Deal) But Yeah I take The Black Guy By Lucky Hit KO lol

Oh But I Do Like Fedor's Affliction Shirt

Gogh wrote:its because they arent morons.

exacly they arent morons and the fact that they got shitload of money doesnt mean they just give it for nothing.

i dont see a reason for brock and randy and other popular american fighters to get 400k +some % of ppv and then giving to fedor 5 mil +% of ppv,fedor is no1 but guys like randy or chuck are more popular to ufc audience which is mostly american and they have no idea who is fedor.

z0rg wrote:

Gogh wrote:its because they arent morons.

exacly they arent morons and the fact that they got shitload of money doesnt mean they just give it for nothing.

i dont see a reason for brock and randy and other popular american fighters to get 400k +some % of ppv and then giving to fedor 5 mil +% of ppv,fedor is no1 but guys like randy or chuck are more popular to ufc audience which is mostly american and they have no idea who is fedor.

of course they arent giving money away for nothing. they would offer that much to get the only thorn out of their side. fedor is the biggest, most elite fighter that the ufc does not have. plus we do not know what kind of % of the ppv buys m1 was offered - could be a far less % than what couture has but fedor's base salary makes up for it. fedor so far has proven that he cannot sell ppv events which is why his base salary might be so high

my point earlier is that 5mil+ per fight to have the #1hw in the world ((a legend in the sport, arguably the greatest p4p ever, and he is only 33ish years old)) in the ufc is a good investment for zuffa and they could easily afford it. this is the point you keep trying to talk about and im not sure why. maybe i was unclear in my previous posts

Rogers is gonna k that fool tfo.

Gogh wrote:of course they arent giving money away for nothing. they would offer that much to get the only thorn out of their side. fedor is the biggest, most elite fighter that the ufc does not have. plus we do not know what kind of % of the ppv buys m1 was offered - could be a far less % than what couture has but fedor's base salary makes up for it. fedor so far has proven that he cannot sell ppv events which is why his base salary might be so high

my point earlier is that 5mil+ per fight to have the #1hw in the world ((a legend in the sport, arguably the greatest p4p ever, and he is only 33ish years old)) in the ufc is a good investment for zuffa and they could easily afford it. this is the point you keep trying to talk about and im not sure why. maybe i was unclear in my previous posts

i dont think they gave him 5mil+ per fight even if they can afford it,he is no1 and all but guy like randy is more popular and i dont see any reason why should guy who gets them less ppv and less money get bigger paycheck then more popular one who gets double the money for them.

Fedor by submission! Bret have no ground game at all...

The reason Fedor didn't sign with the UFC is because they wouldn't let him do his Sambo matches on the side, which he loves to do.. so he told Dana to go fuck himself.