Fedor Emelianenko vs. Brett Rogers - Fight Video Strikeforce

by **bubbyj07** » 10. Nov 2009, 08:26

willyg44 wrote:I wish people would become sane again and stop this Fedor vs. UFC crap. I really don't understand how anyone can say Brett Rogers is top end competition. The same way as people say Fedor needs to fight Lesnar because he is top competition. Lesnar is the UFC champ, yeah, but we all know he didn't deserve the shot at the title, and that was just to make the big bucks for UFC. Lesnar seems to be improving, and yeah he's a beast, but if we're talking about Fedor facing TOP competition, I think he should fight someone with more than 10 fights, and definitely more than 5!! I respect Fedor's skills, I just get annoyed with the arguments surrounding him. Respect his skills, he obviously is a top fighter, this bickering is really ridiculous.

I think what we all should want is Fedor to fight the most well trained, top class fighters in the World. I'm sorry but this fight just didn't prove much to me. That KO was awesome, and Fedor really pulled through, but being that Fedor is clearly one of the top HWs in the world, he should be facing the best competition.

Please don't misconstrue my words, I'm not saying Fedor has anything to prove. I'm saying top competition should face top competition. And to see Fedor's skills at their best, we should be seeing him against the best! If someone says Fedor needs to prove something, they're kidding themselves. However, when you have overly sensitive Fedor fans, and overly sensitive Fedor haters, it just calls for continuous arguing!

So, everyone just just admit Fedor is a great fighter, to say he's not is ridiculous. I think we all should also agree that Fedor should be fighting better competition. Just because he was cut, doesn't mean Rogers was a top fighter.

Fedor is #1 which means he should be fighting to defend that spot against only top competition. His heart lies in his Sambo matches and if Dana can't let him do that + UFC then he will not be in the UFC. Dana lets his pride get the best of him and it is going to cost him the best matchups that the true fans want to see. However, your average UFC fan doesn't know who Fedor is and therefore doesn't give a rats ass about him. I would LOVE to see Fedor in UFC, and maybe his primetime exposure to America via CBS Saturday Night Fights will generate enough interest to make Dana and Fedor's situation a little more flexible.

by **willyg44** » 10. Nov 2009, 09:19

bubbyj07 wrote:
willyg44 wrote:I wish people would become sane again and stop this Fedor vs. UFC crap. I really don't understand how anyone can say Brett Rogers is top end competition. The same way as people say Fedor needs to fight Lesnar because he is top competition. Lesnar is the UFC champ, yeah, but we all know he didn't deserve the shot at the title, and that was just to make the big bucks for UFC. Lesnar seems to be improving, and yeah he's a beast, but if we're talking about Fedor facing TOP competition, I think he should fight someone with more than 10 fights, and definitely more than 5!! I respect Fedor's skills, I just get annoyed with the arguments surrounding him. Respect his skills, he obviously is a top fighter, this bickering is really ridiculous.

I think what we all should want is Fedor to fight the most well trained, top class fighters in the World. I'm sorry but this fight just didn't prove much to me. That KO was awesome, and Fedor really pulled through, but being that Fedor is clearly one of the top HWs in the world, he should be facing the best competition.

Please don't misconstrue my words, I'm not saying Fedor has anything to prove. I'm saying top competition should face top competition. And to see Fedor's skills at their best, we should be seeing him against the best! If someone says Fedor needs to prove something, they're kidding themselves. However, when you have overly sensitive Fedor fans, and overly sensitive Fedor haters, it just calls for continuous arguing!

So, everyone just just admit Fedor is a great fighter, to say he's not is ridiculous. I think we all should also agree that Fedor should be fighting better competition. Just because he was cut, doesn't mean Rogers was a top fighter.

Fedor is #1 which means he should be fighting to defend that spot against only top competition. His heart lies in his Sambo matches and if Dana can't let him do that + UFC then he will not be in the UFC. Dana lets his pride get the best of him and it is going to cost him the best matchups that the true fans want to see. However, your average UFC fan doesn't know who Fedor is and therefore doesn't give a rats ass about him. I would LOVE to see Fedor in UFC, and maybe his primetime exposure to America via CBS Saturday Night Fights will generate enough interest to make Dana and Fedor's situation a little more flexible.

I thought it was known that Dana would have allowed Sambo, and that was not the issue the negotiations fell through. Of course there are a lot of rumors out there, so no one may really know the true reasons. I've heard at least 10 theories of why he didn't come to the UFC. Either way, I wasn't saying the top HWs in the world are all in the UFC. I just want to see him in a few more great classic fights before he retires!

by **ssandlan** » 10. Nov 2009, 14:09

i think the blame for the best fighters not facing each other doesnt lie with the fighters but with the organisations.

I think UFC should take a leaf out of Strikeforce and DREAMs books and allow their fighters to fight elsewhere and for other organisations fighters to fight in UFC.

It stops UFC getting a stranglehold on divisions like lt-heavyweight etc which they are undoubtedly got the best fighters in. but it also gives more flexability in the fights you can get....would widen the interest in MMA.

i really like how fighters like Aoki etc are more than happy to fight against the strikeforce champion (whoever he will be at the time) and viceversa with no bitchslapping, backstabbing or contract flair-ups.

I know each organisation is a business and has to make money but i think monopolising isnt the smart thing to do for the wellbeing off the sport. Can you imaging IN football if FIFA/UEFA etc didnt allow the champions of each country (and other top tems in each country) not play each other?? the champions league is the biggest money earner in football. i think perhaps mma should follow that kind of route.

by **Beto13** » 10. Nov 2009, 18:12

The UFC is a monopoly. I doubt they'll ever co-promote anything with any other organization. They are trying to sell their product as the only legit mma organization. The UFC, well Dana, always claims he wants nothing but the best but we all can see money cones first. Fedor shouldn't go to the UFC. What he asks does seem outrageous but realistically it's not wrong for wanting it. I forgot which comedian said this but the quote fits perfectly: "Shaq is a very rich man, but the man handing him check is wealthy". Why settle for less?

Fedor was impressive in the fight. The one problem I have with most people everywhere is why is it that when Anderson Silva is taken down and some GNP is being worked on him just about every UFC fan, not to mention commentators, always claim he is simply testing out his opponent nothing more. When Fedor is testing out his opponents he's being beat. He himself has said it during his fight with Mark Coleman, he wanted to see what Coleman had.

On Rogers post-fight reaction, I sympathized with him up to the point he started openning his mouth and then after being beat he still was bitter. In the words of Russell Peters " Be a man". For that moment I actually had more respect for Tim Sylvia for looking strong and respectful after being tapped. There's been many champions that have lost their belt with honor. Why should it be any different? mma is martial arts and any martials always teaches you that before anything humbleness, respect and honor come first.

by **xzizx** » 10. Nov 2009, 18:16

>1. So there.; Told you so.
Fedor didn't deserve to lose
to someone like that, so he didn't.

2. Fedors people know, that the
UFC, is dead set on setting him
up to lose. Not let him match
righteously. Use "your the greatest"
against him. To use him to generate
cash only.
He has already established himself.
Really should just continue to fight
once a year, under his own terms.
Brock could have stepped to him in
Pride, chose not to. Toooo Bad.
He has beaten all sizes and shapes.
Enough is enough.
Again, people are so insane they will
bemoan Fyodo not fighting the world
champ when he is 90 yo. May he live
to 100.

by **Johan** » 10. Nov 2009, 18:45

ssandlan wrote:i think the blame for the best fighters not facing each other doesnt lie with the fighters but with the organisations.

I think UFC should take a leaf out of Strikeforce and DREAMs books and allow their fighters to fight elsewhere and for other organisations fighters to fight in UFC.

It stops UFC getting a stranglehold on divisions like lt-heavyweight etc which they are undoubtedly got the best fighters in. but it also gives more flexability in the fights you can get....would widen the interest in MMA.

i really like how fighters like Aoki etc are more than happy to fight against the strikeforce champion (whoever he will be at the time) and viceversa with no bitchslapping, backstabbing or contract flair-ups.

I know each organisation is a business and has to make money but i think monopolising isnt the smart thing to do for the wellbeing off the sport. Can you imaging IN football if FIFA/UEFA etc didnt allow the champions of each country (and other top tems in each country) not play each other?? the champions league is the biggest money earner in football. i think perhaps mma should follow that kind of route.

well said. UFC Dana is just mean.
and everytime Fedor owns sb, UFC fans only cry fedor must come, saying UFC is the best org. In this way, UFC HWs are saved from bitching and realli relaxed from not fighting the best HW, FEDOR.

Those UFC fans should start give pressure on UFC for such a tournament or co-org fights if they realli think UFC HWs r the best and should try to prove it.

Fedor is not made by Fans, UFC is made by Fans. go bitch UFC. :!:

by **Robert223** » 10. Nov 2009, 19:33

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvooJikaT5o

by **skrew** » 10. Nov 2009, 21:33

Fedor is certainly an incredibly impressive fighter, despite being a TINY absolutely Tiny heavy weight, he always manages to win, and impressively most of the time. I wonder why the hell he doenst go to LHW. I mean hes not even quite 6foot.

by **queldx74** » 10. Nov 2009, 22:06

I think he wants to stay at HW, because he is comfortable walking around above 220 pound. With LHW he has to trim down a lot, and he will loose his power. So IMO HW is good for him.

by **Josandont** » 10. Nov 2009, 22:43

Rogers looked fairly decent in there with Fedor, I don't see Arlovski winning a rematch anyway.

Fedor is just incredible.

For someone who grew up watching American Boxing... Its unbelievable that a chubby 220lb Russian brewmaster could one punch KO a gigantic 270lb black monster who prides himself on his stand up skills.

Yet there it is.

by **KG417** » 10. Nov 2009, 22:50

Roger WHO??????

by **KG417** » 10. Nov 2009, 22:58

all i got to say........

by **UserNameCory** » 11. Nov 2009, 00:30

I was a bit worried about how Fedor was taking the gnp but obviously the ref was on the mark and allowed the experience fighter to continue. Same thing sort of happened with Sakuraba Kazushi.

by **omar81** » 11. Nov 2009, 02:30

Josandont wrote:Rogers looked fairly decent in there with Fedor, I don't see Arlovski winning a rematch anyway.

Fedor is just incredible.

For someone who grew up watching American Boxing... Its unbelievable that a chubby 220lb Russian brewmaster could one punch KO a gigantic 270lb black monster who prides himself on his stand up skills.

Yet there it is.

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