Robert223 wrote:they could've at least made it a split decision

this doesnt make sense...
I don't give a fuck if machida really was better cause i won 130$ by betting on him:D

i won money too

joeyw wrote:I was watching Machida v Shogun at the casino with my buddy while we sat at the 1-2 NL table. We had a 20$ bet and I gave him 2-1 on Shogun. He's a bad loser and he admitted that Machida clearly defended the title. I think watching it without sound and commentary makes a difference in how you'd score it. The reality is Machida made Shogun miss more and defended every take down attempt impeccably. If you don't call that Octagon control than I don't know what is. I know this won't be a popular post, and I have to admit that Shogun put on a great show, imho it was the most technical striking match I've ever watched in a ufc event. Right away I knew a rematch was in order, and I was pumped for it. The real winner here are true MMA fans, they got to see a supreme display of world class striking and they get to look forward to seeing it again quite soon. Not a bad decision, first three rounds to Machida.

Machida defended the take down then got pushed against the cage and Shogun knee him a ton. Is that not control?

revved242 wrote:

muhammad_ali wrote:What the fuck was that? Machida lost every fucking round are they serious? Fuck UFC!!!

I just watched it, and i have to completely agree with the judges. Machida won the first 3 rounds, not by alot but he did. the UFC has no power over the Judges. Those judges are extremely experienced and have watched alot more fights than any person in this forum.

i though the turtleing he did with kicks when machida would "spring" was smart but wasn't enough. He wasnt as aggressive as Machida, he wasn't trying to end the fight, his take down attempts were stuffed. His kicks were useless in the first 3 rounds. If his strategy was to weaken his legs and put pressure at the later rounds and end the fight, then why did he not do that? His corner was stupid for thinking he had won the fight, he clearly wasn't, they were listening to joe rogan.

How could you say he lost every round, at one point in round two Shogun was pushed back by strikes against the cage with his arms WIDE open and a dazed look on his face.

Straight from Cecil Peoples mouth "You have to keep in mind we always favor the fighter who is trying to finish the fight, and leg kicks certainly don't do that."

Another thing i agree with Cecil Peoples as a wrestler myself, I agree that Lyoto deserves points for reversals of his takedown attempts.

And never once did i hear mr. Joe Rogan praise Machida on such a dominant take down defense, like he always does for Chuck.

Think what you want based on strikeing stats and what joe rogan screams, but the fact is he won the first 3 rounds. Hands down, and the Judges saw it. Case closed.

Oh yeah and the booing was completely lame, drunken morons worked up by Rogan's screaming.

ur retarded lol shogun won ]
machida stoped the takedown cause he goes up against cage
shogun got backed up in cage cause thats his style
he puts up his hands after a attack
those punchs machida throu maybe 2 at max 4 hit
rest blocked by shogun then shogun throu one-two punchs
then dazed machida
The judges should be judges
Cecil Peoples
is a fucking joke as a judge
he judges boxing his calls in boxing are the most conserverstial
in the history of boxing
he has no buisness in mma
boxing and mma are totally different
Marcos Rosales
is known to favor the bigger star
whos bigger in us
machida or shogun
machida no shit
his decision is always effected by popularity
Nelson Hamilton
i dont know shit about but you can tell
he doesnt have a clue sence he gave round 4 to machida
idk maybe he got his rounds mixed up but shit this dudes dumb

This decision demonstrates a clear lack of competence on behalf of the judges, as they appear to be the only three people who scored the fight for Machida.

Professional analysts scored the bout unanimously for Rua:

FightMetric: 49-47 Rua
Yahoo Sports / Cagewriter: 48-47 Rua
BloodyElbow : 48-47 Rua
USAToday: 48-47 Rua, 49-46 Rua
ESPN / Jake Rossen: 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMA Fanhouse / Michael David Smith: 48-47 Rua
CagePotato: 49-46 Rua
MMATorch : 48-47 Rua
MMAJunkie : 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMAMania : 50-45 Rua
5 Ounces of Pain : Rua (no score given)
Fightlinker : Rua (no score given)
ProMMA.Info: 50-45 Rua
Sherdog.com / Jordan Breen: 48-47 Rua
Sherdog.com / Brian Knapp: 48-47 Rua
Sherdog.com / Mike Fridley: 50-45 Rua

I am not aware of a single professional analyst who agreed with the official decision.

flaminbowz wrote:

revved242 wrote:

muhammad_ali wrote:What the fuck was that? Machida lost every fucking round are they serious? Fuck UFC!!!

I just watched it, and i have to completely agree with the judges. Machida won the first 3 rounds, not by alot but he did. the UFC has no power over the Judges. Those judges are extremely experienced and have watched alot more fights than any person in this forum.

i though the turtleing he did with kicks when machida would "spring" was smart but wasn't enough. He wasnt as aggressive as Machida, he wasn't trying to end the fight, his take down attempts were stuffed. His kicks were useless in the first 3 rounds. If his strategy was to weaken his legs and put pressure at the later rounds and end the fight, then why did he not do that? His corner was stupid for thinking he had won the fight, he clearly wasn't, they were listening to joe rogan.

How could you say he lost every round, at one point in round two Shogun was pushed back by strikes against the cage with his arms WIDE open and a dazed look on his face.

Straight from Cecil Peoples mouth "You have to keep in mind we always favor the fighter who is trying to finish the fight, and leg kicks certainly don't do that."

Another thing i agree with Cecil Peoples as a wrestler myself, I agree that Lyoto deserves points for reversals of his takedown attempts.

And never once did i hear mr. Joe Rogan praise Machida on such a dominant take down defense, like he always does for Chuck.

Think what you want based on strikeing stats and what joe rogan screams, but the fact is he won the first 3 rounds. Hands down, and the Judges saw it. Case closed.

Oh yeah and the booing was completely lame, drunken morons worked up by Rogan's screaming.

ur retarded lol shogun won ]
machida stoped the takedown cause he goes up against cage
shogun got backed up in cage cause thats his style
he puts up his hands after a attack
those punchs machida throu maybe 2 at max 4 hit
rest blocked by shogun then shogun throu one-two punchs
then dazed machida
The judges should be judges
Cecil Peoples
is a fucking joke as a judge
he judges boxing his calls in boxing are the most conserverstial
in the history of boxing
he has no buisness in mma
boxing and mma are totally different
Marcos Rosales
is known to favor the bigger star
whos bigger in us
machida or shogun
machida no shit
his decision is always effected by popularity
Nelson Hamilton
i dont know shit about but you can tell
he doesnt have a clue sence he gave round 4 to machida
idk maybe he got his rounds mixed up but shit this dudes dumb

This decision demonstrates a clear lack of competence on behalf of the judges, as they appear to be the only three people who scored the fight for Machida.

Professional analysts scored the bout unanimously for Rua:

FightMetric: 49-47 Rua
Yahoo Sports / Cagewriter: 48-47 Rua
BloodyElbow : 48-47 Rua
USAToday: 48-47 Rua, 49-46 Rua
ESPN / Jake Rossen: 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMA Fanhouse / Michael David Smith: 48-47 Rua
CagePotato: 49-46 Rua
MMATorch : 48-47 Rua
MMAJunkie : 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMAMania : 50-45 Rua
5 Ounces of Pain : Rua (no score given)
Fightlinker : Rua (no score given)
ProMMA.Info: 50-45 Rua
Sherdog.com / Jordan Breen: 48-47 Rua
Sherdog.com / Brian Knapp: 48-47 Rua
Sherdog.com / Mike Fridley: 50-45 Rua

I am not aware of a single professional analyst who agreed with the official decision.

This just proves your not the only dumb ass listening to Joe Rogaine.

flaminbowz wrote:

revved242 wrote:

muhammad_ali wrote:What the fuck was that? Machida lost every fucking round are they serious? Fuck UFC!!!

I just watched it, and i have to completely agree with the judges. Machida won the first 3 rounds, not by alot but he did. the UFC has no power over the Judges. Those judges are extremely experienced and have watched alot more fights than any person in this forum.

i though the turtleing he did with kicks when machida would "spring" was smart but wasn't enough. He wasnt as aggressive as Machida, he wasn't trying to end the fight, his take down attempts were stuffed. His kicks were useless in the first 3 rounds. If his strategy was to weaken his legs and put pressure at the later rounds and end the fight, then why did he not do that? His corner was stupid for thinking he had won the fight, he clearly wasn't, they were listening to joe rogan.

How could you say he lost every round, at one point in round two Shogun was pushed back by strikes against the cage with his arms WIDE open and a dazed look on his face.

Straight from Cecil Peoples mouth "You have to keep in mind we always favor the fighter who is trying to finish the fight, and leg kicks certainly don't do that."

Another thing i agree with Cecil Peoples as a wrestler myself, I agree that Lyoto deserves points for reversals of his takedown attempts.

And never once did i hear mr. Joe Rogan praise Machida on such a dominant take down defense, like he always does for Chuck.

Think what you want based on strikeing stats and what joe rogan screams, but the fact is he won the first 3 rounds. Hands down, and the Judges saw it. Case closed.

Oh yeah and the booing was completely lame, drunken morons worked up by Rogan's screaming.

ur retarded lol shogun won ]
machida stoped the takedown cause he goes up against cage
shogun got backed up in cage cause thats his style
he puts up his hands after a attack
those punchs machida throu maybe 2 at max 4 hit
rest blocked by shogun then shogun throu one-two punchs
then dazed machida
The judges should be judges
Cecil Peoples
is a fucking joke as a judge
he judges boxing his calls in boxing are the most conserverstial
in the history of boxing
he has no buisness in mma
boxing and mma are totally different
Marcos Rosales
is known to favor the bigger star
whos bigger in us
machida or shogun
machida no shit
his decision is always effected by popularity
Nelson Hamilton
i dont know shit about but you can tell
he doesnt have a clue sence he gave round 4 to machida
idk maybe he got his rounds mixed up but shit this dudes dumb

This decision demonstrates a clear lack of competence on behalf of the judges, as they appear to be the only three people who scored the fight for Machida.

Professional analysts scored the bout unanimously for Rua:

FightMetric: 49-47 Rua
Yahoo Sports / Cagewriter: 48-47 Rua
BloodyElbow : 48-47 Rua
USAToday: 48-47 Rua, 49-46 Rua
ESPN / Jake Rossen: 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMA Fanhouse / Michael David Smith: 48-47 Rua
CagePotato: 49-46 Rua
MMATorch : 48-47 Rua
MMAJunkie : 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMAMania : 50-45 Rua
5 Ounces of Pain : Rua (no score given)
Fightlinker : Rua (no score given)
ProMMA.Info: 50-45 Rua
Sherdog.com / Jordan Breen: 48-47 Rua
Sherdog.com / Brian Knapp: 48-47 Rua
Sherdog.com / Mike Fridley: 50-45 Rua

I am not aware of a single professional analyst who agreed with the official decision.

Pure gold. +100000. Its quite clear that huge majority of fans and experts know Shogun is the winner. Only ones that think otherwise are bias Machida nut huggers that wouldn't accept his defeat even if he got KOed and would make countless bitch excuses.

revved242 wrote:

flaminbowz wrote:

revved242 wrote:

muhammad_ali wrote:What the fuck was that? Machida lost every fucking round are they serious? Fuck UFC!!!

I just watched it, and i have to completely agree with the judges. Machida won the first 3 rounds, not by alot but he did. the UFC has no power over the Judges. Those judges are extremely experienced and have watched alot more fights than any person in this forum.

i though the turtleing he did with kicks when machida would "spring" was smart but wasn't enough. He wasnt as aggressive as Machida, he wasn't trying to end the fight, his take down attempts were stuffed. His kicks were useless in the first 3 rounds. If his strategy was to weaken his legs and put pressure at the later rounds and end the fight, then why did he not do that? His corner



was stupid for thinking he had won the fight, he clearly wasn't, they were listening to joe rogan.

How could you say he lost every round, at one point in round two Shogun was pushed back by strikes against the cage with his arms WIDE open and a dazed look on his face.

Straight from Cecil Peoples mouth "You have to keep in mind we always favor the fighter who is trying to finish the fight, and leg kicks certainly don't do that."

Another thing i agree with Cecil Peoples as a wrestler myself, I agree that Lyoto deserves points for reversals of his takedown attempts.

And never once did i hear mr. Joe Rogan praise Machida on such a dominant take down defense, like he always does for Chuck.

Think what you want based on strikeing stats and what joe rogan screams, but the fact is he won the first 3 rounds. Hands down, and the Judges saw it. Case closed.

Oh yeah and the booing was completely lame, drunken morons worked up by Rogan's screaming.

ur retarded lol shogun won ]
machida stoped the takedown cause he goes up against cage
shogun got backed up in cage cause thats his style
he puts up his hands after a attack
those punchs machida throu maybe 2 at max 4 hit
rest blocked by shogun then shogun throu one-two punchs
then dazed machida
The judges should be judges
Cecil Peoples
is a fucking joke as a judge
he judges boxing his calls in boxing are the most conserverstial
in the history of boxing
he has no buisness in mma
boxing and mma are totally different
Marcos Rosales
is known to favor the bigger star
whos bigger in us
machida or shogun
machida no shit
his decision is always effected by popularity
Nelson Hamilton
i dont know shit about but you can tell
he doesnt have a clue sence he gave round 4 to machida
idk maybe he got his rounds mixed up but shit this dudes dumb

This decision demonstrates a clear lack of competence on behalf of the judges, as they appear to be the only three people who scored the fight for Machida.

Professional analysts scored the bout unanimously for Rua:

FightMetric: 49-47 Rua
Yahoo Sports / Cagewriter: 48-47 Rua
BloodyElbow : 48-47 Rua
USAToday: 48-47 Rua, 49-46 Rua
ESPN / Jake Rossen: 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMA Fanhouse / Michael David Smith: 48-47 Rua
CagePotato: 49-46 Rua
MMATorch : 48-47 Rua
MMAJunkie : 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMAMania : 50-45 Rua
5 Ounces of Pain : Rua (no score given)
Fightlinker : Rua (no score given)
ProMMA.Info: 50-45 Rua
Sherdog.com / Jordan Breen: 48-47 Rua
Sherdog.com / Brian Knapp: 48-47 Rua
Sherdog.com / Mike Fridley: 50-45 Rua

I am not aware of a single professional analyst who agreed with the official decision.

This just proves your not the only dumb ass listening to Joe Rogaine.

And you just proved that you're a complete idiot or bias bitch. These people are proffesionals and have credibility, while you're just a nobody and your bias opinions means nothing. World knows Shogun is the real UFC LHW champ. You don't win by landing 50% of the shots your opponent lands and by doing way less damage.

zomg1 wrote:

revved242 wrote:

flaminbowz wrote:

revved242 wrote:

muhammad_ali wrote:What the fuck was that? Machida lost every fucking round are they serious? Fuck UFC!!!

I just watched it, and i have to completely agree with the judges. Machida won the first 3 rounds, not by alot but he did. the UFC has no power over the Judges. Those judges are extremely experienced and have watched alot more fights than any person in this forum.

i though the turtleing he did with kicks when machida would "spring" was smart but wasn't enough. He wasnt as aggressive as Machida, he wasn't trying to end the fight, his take down attempts were stuffed. His kicks were useless in the first 3 rounds. If his strategy was to weaken his legs and put pressure at the later rounds and end the fight, then why did he not do that? His corner



was stupid for thinking he had won the fight, he clearly wasn't, they were listening to joe rogan.

How could you say he lost every round, at one point in round two Shogun was pushed back by strikes against the cage with his arms WIDE open and a dazed look on his face.

Straight from Cecil Peoples mouth "You have to keep in mind we always favor the fighter who is trying to finish the fight, and leg kicks certainly don't do that."

Another thing i agree with Cecil Peoples as a wrestler myself, I agree that Lyoto deserves points for reversals of his takedown attempts.

And never once did i hear mr. Joe Rogan praise Machida on such a dominant take down defense, like he always does for Chuck.

Think what you want based on strikeing stats and what joe rogan screams, but the fact is he won the first 3 rounds. Hands down, and the Judges saw it. Case closed.

Oh yeah and the booing was completely lame, drunken morons worked up by Rogan's screaming.

ur retarded lol shogun won ]
machida stoped the takedown cause he goes up against cage
shogun got backed up in cage cause thats his style
he puts up his hands after a attack
those punchs machida throu maybe 2 at max 4 hit
rest blocked by shogun then shogun throu one-two punchs
then dazed machida
The judges should be judges
Cecil Peoples
is a fucking joke as a judge
he judges boxing his calls in boxing are the most conserverstial
in the history of boxing
he has no buisness in mma
boxing and mma are totally different
Marcos Rosales
is known to favor the bigger star
whos bigger in us
machida or shogun
machida no shit
his decision is always effected by popularity
Nelson Hamilton
i dont know shit about but you can tell
he doesnt have a clue sence he gave round 4 to machida
idk maybe he got his rounds mixed up but shit this dudes dumb

This decision demonstrates a clear lack of competence on behalf of the judges, as they appear to be the only three people who scored the fight for Machida.

Professional analysts scored the bout unanimously for Rua:

FightMetric: 49-47 Rua
Yahoo Sports / Cagewriter: 48-47 Rua
BloodyElbow : 48-47 Rua
USAToday: 48-47 Rua, 49-46 Rua
ESPN / Jake Rossen: 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMA Fanhouse / Michael David Smith: 48-47 Rua
CagePotato: 49-46 Rua
MMATorch : 48-47 Rua
MMAJunkie : 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMAMania : 50-45 Rua
5 Ounces of Pain : Rua (no score given)
Fightlinker : Rua (no score given)
ProMMA.Info: 50-45 Rua
Sherdog.com / Jordan Breen: 48-47 Rua
Sherdog.com / Brian Knapp: 48-47 Rua
Sherdog.com / Mike Fridley: 50-45 Rua

I am not aware of a single professional analyst who agreed with the official decision.

This just proves your not the only dumb ass listening to Joe Rogaine.

And you just proved that you're a complete idiot or bias bitch. These people are proffesionals and have credibility, while you're just a nobody and your bias opinions means nothing. World knows Shogun is the real UFC LHW champ. You don't win by landing 50% of the shots your opponent lands and by doing way less damage.

Your research also proves that being well-informed and well-read does not mean that you are intellectual. You are still a dumb-ass for not being able to come up with your own conclusions and may not be as smart as you think you are! Sorry to point out this truth, and the TRUTH that Machida is the champ. Let's face it, Shogun would be ashamed to steal the champ's belt by way of his own inferior performance.

Who "really won the fight" in you guy's eyes doesn't mean diddly because the belt didn't change hands. When someone wins in "reality", that is, real life broadcasted live on pay per view, then they "really" won the fight.

I was just excited to see the LHW division is still alive and Shogun is back.

This is my last post on this topic. its really shows how many assclown fucktards there are on this site. Majority of these ppl are just bandwagon, "I think I know what i'm talking about", morons. True MMA fans (not just UFC) really know who won that fight. It was a close fight but I still have to give it to shogun. Even after careful examination and constantly re watching it.

Plane and simple breakdown of the fight:
Shogun was way more effective. But never pushed the envelope.
Machida for the first time had the fear in him. On his quest for the belt he was hunngry with nothing to lose. Every First Time champ has the fear of losing what they so despretly worked for in their first title defence and Machida did just that. Defend. nothing more. He never truely went on the attack. The rematch should be a lot better cause now Machida knows he can lose and Shogun had the right recipie to destroy him but fail to close it.

Now in closing I am a huge huge huge Machida fan. have been since his pride days. But anyone with any background or common sense could see Shogun should be the champ. But this shouldn't shock ppl. The Ufc is corrupt and if you want to be the CHAMP you gotta Beat the shit outta the champ. UNLESS your name is FORREST and your DANA'S golden boy. Then you can win the belt with ease and act like a 4 yr old lil bitch running around like you got a skinned knee when you lose and still have a job.

Judges are horrible and shogun got robbed

zomg1 wrote:

flaminbowz wrote:

revved242 wrote:

muhammad_ali wrote:What the fuck was that? Machida lost every fucking round are they serious? Fuck UFC!!!

I just watched it, and i have to completely agree with the judges. Machida won the first 3 rounds, not by alot but he did. the UFC has no power over the Judges. Those judges are extremely experienced and have watched alot more fights than any person in this forum.

i though the turtleing he did with kicks when machida would "spring" was smart but wasn't enough. He wasnt as aggressive as Machida, he wasn't trying to end the fight, his take down attempts were stuffed. His kicks were useless in the first 3 rounds. If his strategy was to weaken his legs and put pressure at the later rounds and end the fight, then why did he not do that? His corner was stupid for thinking he had won the fight, he clearly wasn't, they were listening to joe rogan.

How could you say he lost every round, at one point in round two Shogun was pushed back by strikes against the cage with his arms WIDE open and a dazed look on his face.

Straight from Cecil Peoples mouth "You have to keep in mind we always favor the fighter who is trying to finish the fight, and leg kicks certainly don't do that."

Another thing i agree with Cecil Peoples as a wrestler myself, I agree that Lyoto deserves points for reversals of his takedown attempts.

And never once did i hear mr. Joe Rogan praise Machida on such a dominant take down defense, like he always does for Chuck.

Think what you want based on strikeing stats and what joe rogan screams, but the fact is he won the first 3 rounds. Hands down, and the Judges saw it. Case closed.

Oh yeah and the booing was completely lame, drunken morons worked up by Rogan's screaming.

ur retarded lol shogun won ]
machida stoped the takedown cause he goes up against cage
shogun got backed up in cage cause thats his style
he puts up his hands after a attack
those punchs machida throu maybe 2 at max 4 hit
rest blocked by shogun then shogun throu one-two punchs
then dazed machida
The judges should be judges
Cecil Peoples
is a fucking joke as a judge
he judges boxing his calls in boxing are the most conserverstial
in the history of boxing
he has no buisness in mma
boxing and mma are totally different
Marcos Rosales
is known to favor the bigger star
whos bigger in us
machida or shogun
machida no shit
his decision is always effected by popularity
Nelson Hamilton
i dont know shit about but you can tell
he doesnt have a clue sence he gave round 4 to machida
idk maybe he got his rounds mixed up but shit this dudes dumb

This decision demonstrates a clear lack of competence on behalf of the judges, as they appear to be the only three people who scored the fight for Machida.

Professional analysts scored the bout unanimously for Rua:

FightMetric: 49-47 Rua
Yahoo Sports / Cagewriter: 48-47 Rua
BloodyElbow : 48-47 Rua
USAToday: 48-47 Rua, 49-46 Rua
ESPN / Jake Rossen: 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMA Fanhouse / Michael David Smith: 48-47 Rua
CagePotato: 49-46 Rua
MMATorch : 48-47 Rua
MMAJunkie : 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMAMania : 50-45 Rua
5 Ounces of Pain : Rua (no score given)
Fightlinker : Rua (no score given)
ProMMA.Info: 50-45 Rua
Sherdog.com / Jordan Breen: 48-47 Rua
Sherdog.com / Brian Knapp: 48-47 Rua
Sherdog.com / Mike Fridley: 50-45 Rua

I am not aware of a single professional analyst who agreed with the official decision.

Pure gold. +100000. Its quite clear that huge majority of fans and experts know Shogun is the winner. Only ones that think otherwise are bias Machida nut huggers that wouldn't accept his defeat even if he got KOed and would make countless bitch excuses.

Hey Zomg what u said is pretty down pat bro the only reason i am sticking up for machida is because Shogun never tried to finnish and only landed leg kicks, machida did go for the KO on 1 occasion and had him stunned once or twice more throughout the fight. i Honestly thought shogun was gonna win but it was no more crazy then akiyama and belcher or Forrest and Rampage right? it wasnt that decisive for the contender to take it forrest took rampage down a whole round and ppl were still saying rampage won easily

dgksk8atl wrote:The judges gave Forrest Rampage's belt when he clearly didn't conclusivly beat Rampage...

exactly

matt93notch wrote:4)Shogun's Body was redder then Lyoto's probobly because Lyoto puts that turn in his heel in the kick he had a small mouse over both eyes and a fair bit of swelling just from punches, Lyoto had a mark on the nose a scratch on the lip from a clinch altercation but his torso was also red raw and at this point his legs took some good punishment


A scratch on the lip huh.. didnt know scratches needed stitches. you my friend are biased. (clinch altercation) seriously?

i didnt see lyoto get punched in the mouth at all man tell me where he splits it i'll take it all back if it was a punch but it was a scratch in a clinch in round 3 or 4