Not really. (Here comes the pain) LOL

xplosive wrote:

goro wrote:If Lesnar beats Fedor twice he'll be the best.

By the way, I don't think he is shitty fighter at all. I think he is right behind Fedor and Nog among other top contenders.

Fedor's handlers won't allow that to happen. Brock would crush Fedor any day of the week.

Whoa, whoa, WHOA!! I've enjoyed all your posts up until this one. I think Brock is GOING to be good, no doubt, the guy is just a fucking athlete! He's made considerable improvements so far, I think he's going to be good.

I thought he was going to beat Randy before this fight happened. After Randy came out, I KNEW Brock was going to win. That was by far the worst I have ever seen Randy look. I have no idea, but I can't imagine, he was training too much in his year off (cardio, weights, etc.) He looked much more flabby and no where near as big as he did during the Gonzo fight. I think it's finally safe to say age has finally caught up to Randy....

For 45 years old....DAMN impressive.

But Brock beat Fedor? No way, boss. I'm not implying Fedor cannot be beat, EVERYONE can be beat, but Brock is no where near the level of Fedor. That's not to say that Brock cannot get to that level, but like Randy, the clock is ticking against him...

xplosive wrote:Fedor's handlers won't allow that to happen. Brock would crush Fedor any day of the week.

If Fedor was in a coma, he would still tap out Brock "Here comes the Over-Rated" Lesnar.

MightyMach wrote:Whoa, whoa, WHOA!! I've enjoyed all your posts up until this one. I think Brock is GOING to be good, no doubt, the guy is just a fucking athlete! He's made considerable improvements so far, I think he's going to be good.

Well, let's discuss this further...

MightyMach wrote:I thought he was going to beat Randy before this fight happened. After Randy came out, I KNEW Brock was going to win. That was by far the worst I have ever seen Randy look. I have no idea, but I can't imagine, he was training too much in his year off (cardio, weights, etc.) He looked much more flabby and no where near as big as he did during the Gonzo fight. I think it's finally safe to say age has finally caught up to Randy....

Props to you for correctly predicting the outcome of the match, just like I did. But did Randy look bad because he's old and out of shape, or because Brock's strategy, speed, intelligence & power confused and overwhelmed him? You must take that into consideration before assessing Brock's status in the world of MMA.

MightyMach wrote:For 45 years old....DAMN impressive.

I admit that I doubted Couture would make it to the second round. I'll give him credit for that.

MightyMach wrote:But Brock beat Fedor? No way, boss. I'm not implying Fedor cannot be beat, EVERYONE can be beat, but Brock is no where near the level of Fedor. That's not to say that Brock cannot get to that level, but like Randy, the clock is ticking against him...

Yes, Fedor can be beat and the proof is in the pudding. I can cite many instances in various matches that show his weaknesses but the one I like to refer to is his match against Heath Herring.

Fedor DOMINATED that match up until the end when Herring gained the upper hand and pinned him to the ground. Herring was able to unleash several powerful shots and although Fedor tried to get up, or defend himself properly several times, he was not able to. A battered and tired Herring was able to control and inflict damage on Fedor. Fedor was ultimately saved by the bell and the referee would not allow Herring to continue fighting due to the damage he had taken prior to his final assault on Fedor.

Fedor would get destroyed by Brock. Most experts say that strategy makes the match. Well, Brock has showed that his standup is solid. His ground game is second to none and he can take a punch. The only way Fedor can beat Brock is by submitting him and this is unlikely as Brock has changed his strategy since losing to Mir.

The same people who claimed Brock had no chance against Couture are saying he has no chance against Fedor. But if you really examine their styles, he matches up better against Fedor than he does against Couture. It's true.

somebody ban this clown ffs

as we all should know by now brock is a beast. his sheer athleticism can overwhelm any fighter and yes that includes fedor, it IS possible since he's human not a cyborg like fanboys want to believe (fedor mind u is my favorite fighter, i just don't have to carry his balls in my mouth).

not to blow my whistle but i had predicted this could go either way (i thought it would go randy's) and that brock's speed might give him the edge, as it could and as it did.

it's about time though people realize that skill doesn't always beat power, nor vice versa. a lot of things can happen to determine the outcome of a fight, even luck.

not taking anything away from brock, as i stated before a freak of a super athlete who does not rest on whatever he acomplished so far, whether u like or not he is a champion by his own right and worked his ass off to get there, and continues to work his ass off. respect for that.

also, the douche attitude of being prejudiced against his wwe background has no excuse. i'm no wwe fan for sure, but people booing him AFTER he won fair and square should be ashamed. ok, your (and mine for that matter) favorite fighter didn't win. stop crying already and give credit where it's due.

that said i can only add that it is equally ridiculous over doing it, there's plenty brock needs to learn before i enjoy his fighting style. personally i prefer a complete fighter that relies more on technique, but to each his own, i don't let that cloud my judgement of a clean win.

peace

vespalaranja wrote:(fedor mind u is my favorite fighter, i just don't have to carry his balls in my mouth).

Now who would do something like that, hmmmm, I wonder..............lol, anyways, good post, thanks vespalaranja

lol Brock lesnar beats some1 60lbs lighter than him, 45 year old and with amazing 16-8 record and all the sudden hes the baddest mo fo on the planet and can now rape Fedor? ROFL I love Randy but he was far from the best. Judging that Lesnar was struggling and gassing out in second round already vs little old guy, just proves that you put pressure on him and Lesnar slowly crumbles.

Brock has solid stand up? Based on what? KOing Randy? And that proves what exaclty? Randy got dropped before by smaller guys too. Fedor is probably the best striker in HW division. Brock stands with him, he will get killed.

Brocks ground game is second to none? Say what? He already got submitted, he can't submit anyone, and he can't even hold down 45 year old man whos 60 lbs lighter than him. Where is this amazing ground game??? He might have great take downs, but ground game is far from great.

Brock vs Lesnar. Stand up, Fedor is faster, more accurate and more powerfull than Randy. Randy was able to land of Brock. Brock wouldn't stand a chance vs Fedor on feet. On ground, Fedor will likely catch him or Brock lays on Fedor for 5 oh so exciting rounds. And that is his only chance.

Lastly, HW division is broken as Lesnar shoudl have never foungth somebody this much smaller/ligher than him. Its like Randy fighting GSP or something, just purerely retarded and proves shit. There should be Super Heavy Weight division for overgrown meat heads like Lesnar.

bla wrote:lol Brock lesnar beats some1 60lbs lighter than him, 45 year old and with amazing 16-8 record and all the sudden hes the baddest mo fo on the planet and can now rape Fedor? ROFL I love Randy but he was far from the best. Judging that Lesnar was struggling and gassing out in second round already vs little old guy, just proves that you put pressure on him and Lesnar slowly crumbles.

Brock has solid stand up? Based on what? KOing Randy? And that proves what exaclty? Randy got dropped before by smaller guys too. Fedor is probably the best striker in HW division. Brock stands with him, he will get killed.

Brocks ground game is second to none? Say what? He already got submitted, he can't submit anyone, and he can't even hold down 45 year old man whos 60 lbs lighter than him. Where is this amazing ground game??? He might have great take downs, but ground game is far from great.

Brock vs Lesnar. Stand up, Fedor is faster, more accurate and more powerfull than Randy. Randy was able to land of Brock. Brock wouldn't stand a chance vs Fedor on feet. On ground, Fedor will likely catch him or Brock lays on Fedor for 5 oh so exciting rounds. And that is his only chance.

Lastly, HW division is broken as Lesnar shoudl have never foungth somebody this much smaller/ligher than him. Its like Randy fighting GSP or something, just purerely retarded and proves shit. There should be Super Heavy Weight division for overgrown meat heads like Lesnar.

You only have two posts and you've already proven yourself to be 10000x smarter than xplosive with his 300 and something posts. Very nice.

one thing is for sure... Dana White is a smart bussiness man.

If Randy wins, then he is the one to beat Fedor, the Randy vs Fedor hype grows again (people started talking less about this as it was more evident that Randy was no match for fedor at all).

If Brock wins, then all the retards would say he is the best fighter in the world (as we are seeing now).

I dont get why they are going to match him against Minotauro tho, its throwing all the hype out of the window as soon as he destroys Brock tho.

Maybe its brock the one who is pushing for this fight, if that is the case in congratulate him on his sportsmanship, but he is a fool he is not ready yet for that kind of fight.

xplosive wrote:
Fedor would get destroyed by Brock.

Thanks for a good laugh

I agree, Brock is not nearly ready for Fedor. Am I saying that he has no chance, not at all, anything is possible in this sport. However, his chances are not as great as they could become if he gave it more time. Brock, even tho not one of my favorites, has been showing very good improvement in most aspects of the game, and he has great potential to be one of, if not the best HW's, SOMEDAY.

He has the strength, determination, and drive. But, he still lacks alot of tools needed to be a complete MMA fighter, and if he really wants to be a true champion, he will see this, and better prepare himself in all aspects.

This is just my opinion. I'm sure we all will be watching to see if he drops the ball or if he truly is the "Next Big Thing", lol, corny I know

I know I am way behind the times here, as I am finally getting around to watching this fight, and I agree with what alot of you are saying that Brock can possibly be a great heavyweight SOMEDAY, but I too will agree with the fact that he is nowhere NEAR ready for a guy like Fedor. Shit, if you look up videos of Fedor fights on something like this forum, the MMAHACKS.com site, or just plain ol' YouTube, Fedor makes a habit of fighting, and beating, guys considerably larger than he.

Anyway, regarding the fight, I have only heard how it ends, will be seeing the end shortly, but so far I like the fact that the early part of this fight showcases each fighter's wrestling expertise.

And Randy did look alot leaner than usual, or was it my eyes playing tricks after seeing the wall that is Lesnar?

Well, now that I've seen the whole fight, I can say that yes, Brock can be a force, but hes gonna have to seriously work on his striking. Sure he got the knockdown and stunned Randy earlier in the round, but anyone will drop with a shot to the temple, especially when the dude has that much muscle and his hands are the size of some peoples heads, but no amount of training can help in the fact that Brock is 270+lbs of mostly muscle, and that is just a rediculous amount of oxygen needed to help those muscles move. A naturally bigger fighter like Nog, or Mir for that matter, will take advantage of the more patient Brock style and make him wear out,much like Randy did, but he didnt quite have enough mass to really wear him down. I like the fact that Brock got the title, but he probably won't hold it for very long.

And yeah, those little rabbit punch hammer fists look kinda cheesy, but he was almost bouncing Randy's head off the mat with each one landed! And part of me thinks Brock might have held back a bit, for he did respect Randy, that much was obvious, and did not feel the need to rear back and try to crush his skull with each blow. Now lets see what the future holds for Brock Lesnar!